I don’t like the NRA… Why?…. Because they arm the ones they fight.



I don’t like the NRA.

I wrote a post about this https://cogitabunda.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/im-not-a-fan-of-the-nra-but/.

At the time, I said to myself, “Well, I don’t like them, but they do seem to at least publicly do an important job for the sake of the public.”

Now we have this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevefriess/how-the-nra-built-a-massive-secret-database-of-gun-owners

Really, NRA? For a group who brings in over 200 million dollars annually, based on public records, they show little interest in something that I find pretty obvious.

It’s hypocritical to have an ‘in-house’ registry of gun owners while fighting against the government having such a list. You have effectively hamstrung your own argument against having such a list-there was previously a thought that no such list exists.

But now, it exists, everyone knows it, and you have it.

What’s the argument against Gun registration, now? That the government could use it too easily to bring about confiscation?

If they want the list, all they have to do is find a reason to hack your systems or raid your offices. If the intent is tyranny, they’ll do it and apologize profusely.

Of course, that would make them the bad guy, but you guys would wind up with plenty of bad press and a general increase in distrust and decrease in funding. I mean, why should you exist if “the big list” is in their hands anyway? Prevention of a registry has been your supposed hard line stance for years, and with that gone, you are nothing anymore.

But, if I were the government, and I wanted to bring about confiscation but maintain some kind of good press, I’d cut a deal with you. All you have to do is keep fighting the public legal fight, drawing in that cash, paying your six-figure incomes to your people, and one other small thing…

I would just want the list, quietly, discretely, no one would ever have to know…

That is, that’s if I were an untrustworthy government. That sort of thing would never happen, right?

Because we can trust our government. Just ask them, they’ll tell you that they can be trusted.

Just like you guys. You’d never agree to this, right? This is all a misunderstanding and you have the data kept nice and safe, at least as safe as the government’s highest level military secrets.


Maybe that’s not the best example, right?

But we can trust our government not to want to collect all of this information, right? They’ll respect our privacy as citizens, right?



So, in effect, you guys have made it so that your own major argument point is moot. Not only that, but since you have done it, and much of your information has come through publicly available sources, if the government had NOT figured out how to get the information themselves before, you have given them a simple template.

They don’t need to confiscate the guns, not really. They just have to make sure that the gun owners suffer, somehow. A note somewhere for Law Enforcement would do it,”Potentially dangerous, gun owner”.

Thanks, NRA. Over the past 10 years I suspect you guys have taken in somewhere near 2 billion dollars to defend gun owners from the government.

Now you have given the government what they need to do what you were supposedly trying to prevent.


The only questions left are these:

1: Did I call your collusion right, or was this simple imbecility on your part?

2: If you aren’t working with the government on this, then what are you going to do to prevent them from following in your footsteps?

Piece of advice for you guys, come out with a press release stating, “We were trying to find out how hard it was to gather this information, so that we can fight against the government acting to collect it.”

It’s really your only hope for justification.


Join the NRA, folks. They need your money to… honestly? I have no idea.


If you want to take your rights into your own hands, you can contact your representatives.


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7 responses to “I don’t like the NRA… Why?…. Because they arm the ones they fight.

  1. “It’s hypocritical to have an ‘in-house’ registry of gun owners while fighting against the government having such a list.”

    This bullshit meme is the latest fake issue by wannabe gun-contollers.

    The NRA doesn’t have SWAT squads with silenced submachine guns to raid your house and seize your weapons. The government does have those kind of squads.

    Bullshit meme or “talking point” and the herd trots out and says the same thing. Tiring, really.


    • Ok. Is it wise to have such a list, if you are basically unarmed and facing a government armed with “SWAT squads with silenced submachine guns”? What is to prevent the government from using those squads at the offices of the NRA itself, or perhaps use them to strong-arm an employee of the NRA into handing over the list?

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  4. Ah, but the NRA’s list is a good list, and any other list is a bad list. See the difference? Sheesh.


    The NRA’s entire reputation is built on opposition to those who would do ANYTHING to compromise Americans’ right to bear arms. They can’t be the bad guys because they’re fighting for US (gun owners) against THEM (would-be gun-controllers) Get it?

    Because we trust the NRA and are willing to send them money, we can be assured that they will protect us from would-be gun controllers. We know the NRA is on our side because they have told us so. And, we believe them because they tell us who the enemy is, and we pay them handsomely to do this. They’re the good guys. Their list is a good list.


    Below is a little excerpt I found to illustrate how misinformed you are. You see, if the NRA were in collusion with the government, or WERE actually the government pretending to be the NRA, then they would have a plan along the lines of this:

    “Counterespionage requires the identification of a specific adversary, a knowledge of the specific operations that he is conducting, and a countering of those operations through penetrating and manipulating them so that their thrust is turned back against the aggressor.”

    But since the NRA protects US from THEM, they would not do that. Get it?
    Besides, the NRA’s list is a good list. Not a bad list.

    PS, my amplifier goes to “11”.

    PSS the source of that excerpt is the CIA’s now-declassified document, “The Anatomy of Counterintelligence”

  5. dave snyder


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